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Are Seventh-Day Adventists False Prophets?: A Former Insider Speaks Out (Inglese) Copertina flessibile – 1 ago 2012


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How reliable is Slattery? 27 marzo 2014
Di Amazon Customer - Pubblicato su Amazon.com
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Since Slattery's book expects you to take his word for quite a number of things, it was important for me to verify his accuracy.

Slattery asserts that Ellen White taught a shut door of mercy for all sinners after her first vision in January 1845 until about 1851 (pp. 15, 29). He states that immediately after Hiram Edson's "impression" about Jesus entering the Most Holy Place of the heavenly sanctuary, Sabbath-keeping Adventists first began to labor for the world (p. 15). However, Ellen White's first vision was in December 1844, after Hiram Edson's "impression" of October 23, 1844. If they started working for the world after October 23, 1844, there is no way Ellen White taught a shut door of mercy until 1851. It's hopelessly contradictory.

There are lots of less important mistakes, like Slattery saying that Adventists believe they will travel to heaven on a sea of glass (p. 21), when the sea of glass is what they stand on after they arrive in heaven, not what they travel on to get to heaven. Then there is his saying that William Miller started preaching in the 1820's (p. 14) when it was in 1831. He says that the Joseph Bates had Seventh Day Baptist ties, which is why he promoted the Sabbath among Adventists (p. 15). In reality, Rachel Oaks was the Seventh Day Baptist that told Methodist preacher Frederick Wheeler about the Sabbath. Perhaps Preble got the Sabbath concept from Oaks and Wheeler, Preble wrote an article on it, Bates read the article, and then Bates traveled to visit with Wheeler about it. Slattery leads the reader to think that S. S. Snow was off his rocker by 1844 (p. 14), but Snow didn't claim to be Elijah until after 1844. Slattery claims that Spectrum is an official Adventist journal (p. 7), but it never has been. All these facts are fairly well known and easily verifiable.

Slattery seems to contradict himself when he asserts that Jonah's prophecy against Nineveh can be implicitly conditional, but any condition for Ellen White's 1856 vision must be explicitly stated (p. 26).

If only the documentation were better. In order to prove that today's White Estate says that certain evidence is tenuous and cannot be validated (p. 5 n. 3), Slattery cites the 1919 Bible Conference minutes, a conference Willie White wasn't even at. He does this again on p. 38 n. 62 where he cites the same minutes as proof that a certain claim is still unverified. P. 53 n. 5 cites Signs of the Times 3-3-1888, but there was no issue with that date. P. 28 n. 20 cites an 1892 issue of Christianity Today for the opinions of Olson and Graybill, when Olson, the older of the two men, was born in 1920, and when Christianity Today didn't exist in 1892. P. 48 n. 5 cites the Adventist Review of Sept. 1868 for an alleged statement by James White about wine: No such journal by that title existed in 1868, Slattery doesn't say which of the four Sept. 1868 issues of the Review and Herald were intended, and an electronic search in all four issues for "wine" turned up no such statement by James White.

When read in their context, some of Slattery's quotations of Ellen White seem to give a different impression than what Slattery intended. Thus, I would highly recommend that any researcher who wishes to rely on Slattery first obtain the entire article or chapter his quotations come from, and see if Slattery's conclusions are really necessary. This is all the more necessary given the apparent inattentiveness to detail Slattery demonstrated in making the indisputable errors mentioned above.
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Humbled 8 maggio 2013
Di Humbled - Pubblicato su Amazon.com
Formato: Copertina flessibile
I grew up a Seventh-day Adventist. I went all through grade school and high school in the Seventh-day Adventists system. My parents would read to myself and my siblings every morning Ellen G. White books. At church Ellen G. White was always quoted, in both the children's and adult's Sabbath school classes she was quoted and used to pass judgment onto others. I've always felt judged and never good enough as a person. Because I was a very highly active and energetic child, I didn't fit into the other people's mold. I was always told that I could never say that I was saved and could go to heaven, because I was being judged by God, and that every sin I committed that He would be waiting for me, and would have the Book of my life in His hands and He was waiting to judge my life. I finally said, "Screw it! I'm out of here!" I not only left the SDA church but I left Christianity and became a worldly, atheist, non-believer. There was an event in my life that rocked me to my core. At that point I fell to my knees and cried out to God. He lovingly, graciously, and caringly saved me. I was accepted and loved by non-SDA Christians. After I was accepted by Christ, I wanted to go back to the church I grew up in. When I went back I was judged even harsher than before. The member's displayed a prideful and arrogant attitude that they had the elite truth, and all other denominations are going to hell. They said that I had received my recommitment from a different denominational church without the truth (which the other church kept the Sabbath as well). I started researching the SDA history and have found so many documented facts that the SDA organization has hid from their members. The vision that Ellen G. White claims in her book, Testimonies for the Church, where she saw people walking down a narrow path, which became so narrow at the end that the people could barely remain on the path, and there were chords from the sky that came down to save them. This exact vision was shown to me in 1Nephi chapter 8 in The Book of Mormon, which this book was published in 1830, more than ten years before Ellen G. White became a supposed prophet. The majority of all her visions and books are documented as being plagiarized from other sources. Now I am free and untangling all the programming of lies from Ellen G. White's writings and the Seventh-day Adventists teachings. Now they tell me I'm going straight to hell. I just thank Jesus for His grace, love and mercy, and that I don't need to be perfect to go to heaven (or act that I am perfect and judge others hypocritically when we all are sinners.) Thank you Mr. Slattery for sharing your story; your book has been an encouragement. Thank you for the documentation and facts to help guide where I could find the original source materials from the White Estate for my research.
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HA HA 3 novembre 2007
Di Gabriel L. Rodriguez - Pubblicato su Amazon.com
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Sometimes I have my doubts about the SDA church and I question about the people not the doctrines of the church. First of all SDA's is a recognized denomination like Baptist, Methodist, Catholics, and etc. Our world headquarters is in the Washington D.C. area so we are recognized by many political leaders and US Presidents. To give you a sign of relief we stay out of the political arena in Washington because we strongly believe in the separation of church and state.

Point B. Heaven will be a place for all people not for a specific religion because there are saints in all religions. Including non Christians, Jews, Catholics, Muslims, Atheists, or people who never heard the word Jesus. PERIOD!

C: Ellen White was a sweet lady who never put her writings above the Bible. Is the peoples fault who twist her writings and that is the main cause for some cultish SDA churches.

D: I was a Roman Catholic including my parents. If we never knew about the SDA church then our health would be different.

To uphold the U.S. Constitution I am not going to force anyone to accept the Sabbath day but here is a reason why I do in a non religious way.
I am a college student and a small business owner. I have stress during the week. I just need one day to set aside everything and relax. Even when I graduate my workload is going to increase because I'll be a professional person. So hey I don't want any chronic diseases.
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NOT SO FAST! I AM A 7TH DAY ADVENTIST!!! 2 dicembre 2004
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I was born and raised in the Seventh-Day Adventist church, and I can say with authority that the church doesn't claim to be a prophet. Anyone who says it does gets us confused with the "Millerite movement" who tried to predict the end of the world in 1844. NEWS FLASH !!! The Seventh day adventist church was not organized into a denomination untill the early 1860's. DO THE MATH!

ALSO, Ellen White is not the final authority. The Bible is. Mrs. White, herself, clearly says "God wants us to go to the Bible." She is only an authority when she agrees with the scripture, and that's that. To be honest, I NEVER GO TO ELLEN WHITE FOR SPIRITUAL GUIDENCE OR ANYTHING ELSE. I'm good with my Bible.

We also beleive that we should keep the seventh day, Saturday, holy, that we don't have to keep the law to be saved. If you ask me what saves us, my answer will always be "GOD"S UNMERITED GRACE!"

There are a few nut in the church who would disagree, but our official beleife is that grace through faith is what saves us in Jesus Christ, and not by keeping the law.

We also beleive in the trinity, Christ's vigin birth, the personality of the Holy Spirit, and most of the traditional Christian teachings. So don't tell me we are not Christians, we are. For a better non-Adventist concept of what we beleive, I would like to recommend Dr. Walter Martin's book which is called "The Kingdom of the Cults." I know the title doesn't sound so good, but when you read the chapter about us, you will find that the author only put the chapter in there to demenstrate that we are not a cult, but a Christian denomination.
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Righteousness 6 dicembre 2003
Di Mr.B - Pubblicato su Amazon.com
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I noticed that a "former" minister stated that this church teaches righteousness by works...i beg to differ, i am a researcher and found no such thing. I encourage all readers to go to the source.
adventist.org. this christian organization teaches the biblical righteousness by faith.