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transceiver Korg eléctricotribe2s Sampler
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Tu fornisci i campioni, e il Korg Electribe Sampler Workstation per la produzione musicale fornisce un ambiente sequencing potente con effetti all'avanguardia e notevole potenziale per le performance dal vivo. Mentre l'Electribe Sampler viene fornito con una collezione di suoni di batteria e loop, E' molto facile caricare i nostri suoni personalizzati e creare arrangiamenti complessi con essi. Potremo anche essere in grado di utilizzare i motori sonori di modellazione analogica integrato per creare suoni di bassi e synth. Se ci piace creare i nostri campioni, il Korg Electribe Sampler è lo strumento perfetto per il loro sequenziamento.
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So I was excited by this new iteration of "electribe" on the horizon, and I waited until after the Christmas 'few and far between' sightings to place my order. The vendor was great by the way (thank you Sam Ash), but this review is of the hardware. I saw that the polyphony was 24 voices -- a far cry better than my trusty old "m" unit, and the engine was reportedly based on the KingKorg engine, which sound pretty good in the demos I've heard.
I'm not a DJ, I use my old "m" for composition, and I was thinking I might take this new box live in addition to using it for production, but I have found a few limitations with my workflow context, and found a few solutions which I'll outline below.
First, even though I'm only beginning to scratch the surface of the machine, I've already run into voices with longer decay times being cut short by the dynamic voice allocation. I was using intervals (not actual chords) and not at the 16 part limit when I got this odd stutter recording a layer that did not show up when I was playing around on the voice without the pattern playing at the same time. Ok, fair enough, change the voice priority setting and move on. Depending on the complexity of what you are doing you might find this annoying or a non-issue, but it does impact how I now design my sounds resulting in the safest route being shorter sounds with less decay time.
Second, I've found a bit of distortion, again with complex patterns, when I've got lots of bass in the headphone out, even if I turn the volume down. This is an artifact of how I monitor when I'm sitting at home (through monitors where my lead is a 3.5mm connector usually plugged in to my laptop) and may not be present in the main out and which I will have to test at some point. This distortion was noticed both with the monitors (which are equipped with a sub) and in various headphones. I'm not taking anything off my rating for this, because I'm not using the main output.
The good news is that this distortion is not present in the exported audio, and my workflow does not involve live performance featuring the electribe at this time. Need to test it with the main output -- I suspect it will be clean.
Third, while the interface is well designed, some things are buried a bit in the menu system. I'm getting quite adept at adjusting things like note priority, polyphony, variations on note triggering, and so forth, but some things I wish I could just hit shift and crank on some knob as a shortcut. Pattern naming is really annoying, but in theory you really only name something once then just increment a number at the end if you follow Korg's naming conventions (and this makes perfect sense in my opinion). Still, I'd really like to have an editor (which I have not yet found if there is one) to do 'housekeeping' from a computer. The workaround in this case is to know the interface better, and I'm certainly getting faster and faster.
Fourth, rendered audio doesn't always loop clean if you have effects, which is an integral part of the "DJ" sound. I found the occasional click on my last project because I didn't take the effects off before I rendered the audio (being lazy). Solution was simple, use an audio editor for a little clean up. Twisted Wave and just a few minutes and I had all 32 files (several patterns that make up the raw material of the composition) clean and sounding great. This is clearly not a problem in 'live' mode.
If you decide to get an electribe, make sure you download the "Electribe Parameter's Guide" from Korg and learn what ranges harbor your favorite sounds. While it's great fun to just let inspiration take hold and scroll through all the kicks, or all the snares, it's probably best to know where your go to 'oscillator' sounds are when you're quickly framing up a musical idea. If you're not used to this type of music production, you might also want to create a few custom 'psuedo-init' patterns with sounds close to what you generally use so you can just grab a pattern and go without any setup. Later you can tweak and adjust the sounds to what you have in your head, or what you didn't think of -- this engine can do a lot more than is obvious.
On the plus side here are some of the reasons I give this device 5 stars:
-Once you're slightly used to it, you can work very rapidly and flesh out your ideas
-Plugging in a midi controller makes it a snap to use your mad skilz on the keyboard (or not, but it's easier for most of us).
-it's trivial to take a part you've created and throw it on another part-location to double or create tonal variations
-the pads can be velocity sensitive or not -- a very nice option for different use cases
-depth of playing options-- midi input, step sequencing, trigger style, or pad input 'keyboard,' audio in, even sync jacks
-selecting a scale makes staying in key easy when you're making things on the fly
-many available parameters make knob twisting easier to control based on your style
-battery powering option means I can put this in my backpack and plug in my headphones to create anywhere
-Audio export, Ableton aside (it works well in my tests), gives you each part on a track and can be imported into any DAW (I use Logic X)
-it's an instrument. If feels good, and that feel encourages you to explore and create
-did I mention that it's an instrument? Much better than a control surface tethered to a computer.
All in all the new "electribe" is not quite what I was hoping for, but I think I was being unrealistic. What it is, however, is a great way for me to build compositions, and not just dance music, it's equally adept at creating "Berlin school" sequencing and other stylistic sonorities.
These days you can create music on your phone or pad when you're on the go, and you can even take these devices live, but I think this new electribe is surely portable enough to be a 'knob twisting' way to make music at home, on the stage, in the studio, or even on the go. At this price, it's a winner.
When playing sequences I found the pads to be inconsistent. Some pads were more sensitive than others. I also found that every now and then my rhythms would flam awkwardly out of time with my presses. It didn't happen a lot but it was enough to really sabotage my confidence in the device.
It's true what people say - changing patterns would kill the effects hard. That was also jarring.
But the real kicker that made me return the unit was how certain effects would inexplicably throw off the timing of a sequence. When I would activate the distressor on the master channel my snare suddenly was thrown off tempo. It wasn't just latency, either... the lights on the pad were off tempo, too. Even switching off that effect wouldn't fix it. I actually had to hit "stop" and "play" again and boom, the sample would be in time again.
I wanted to import about 500 samples but I was horrified to discover that this would require importing each one at a time. Ugh. I guess I'm spoiled but this was so daunting for me.
I tried upgrading to the latest firmware: 1.15, I think. This actually fixed the pad sensitivity. It's a lot better. But the effect timing glitches remained.
At the end of the day I felt like I couldn't trust it either live or with my compositions. Sad, really. I considered getting an Octatrack but it's just too much sampler for me and the lack of polyphony turned me off. I ended up getting a Push 2 for use with Ableton. Yeah it's twice the price and requires a computer but it seems like the most holistically powerful option for the money.
Firmware updates may iron this product out but they've had some time to do so and it was surprisingly bad for me.
Pluses: Some of the samples were nice. The lights were fun. The kaos pad was fun for breakdowns. Some of the effects were pleasant.